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Hell Hath Frozen Over... Could it be true? A Duke Nukem Forever teaser from 3DRealms?
December 19th 2007, 16:15 MSK by OmegaFoRCe

Long long ago, in a Crap far, far away, there were Crappers making fun of 3DRealms and their seemingly unending development cycle of Duke Nukem Forever. Could the legends of a real video game actually be true?

And behold - the word of legend: http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=29639

Last Saturday we had our annual company Christmas party. It was a lot of fun as usual but it featured one special surprise. It turns out that several people had been secretly working late nights and into the wee hours of the morning preparing a special video for those at the party. They created a short teaser for Duke Nukem Forever.
After seeing the teaser we thought it was something we should share with all of you and while it's just a teaser, rest assured more is coming.

Tomorrow, Wednesday the 19th, around noon CST, we will release the first teaser trailer from Duke Nukem Forever. To tide you over until then, here is a screen shot taken from the teaser.

Thank you for being fans of the game and for your continued patience.

I'd like to thank the people on the team that worked so hard to create this teaser and the friends of 3DR that helped create it (Jeremy Soule and Julian Soule, Frank Bry, Jason Evigan and of course, Jon St. John).
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#224 by Squeaky
2007-12-26 21:51:29
#222 by gaggle

Yeah, is that a problem Squeaky? My TV will have one, my Wii has one, but I'll be damned if I know what I'd use it for. Ever. Is it useful for more than viewing photos?

Uhh... you can't play ut3 mods without one? Okay, so there's no real reason to have one on a ps3.

#225 by None-1a
2007-12-26 21:52:48
gaggle you can use the memory slots for saved games, however since you can just use any old usb drive instead it's kind of a moot point.
#226 by gaggle
2007-12-26 21:54:24
Oi, what? Uh… what? Come again? I'm at a loss for words, is there any reason that they're not just on the harddrive?

"I'm not even angry / I'm being so sincere right now."
#227 by gaggle
2007-12-26 21:55:34
Save games? Again, what about the harddrive? Or is for mobility reasons? Sounds cool with the USB drive though, does the same hold true with UT mods?

"I'm not even angry / I'm being so sincere right now."
#228 by Squeaky
2007-12-26 22:01:41
#227 by gaggle

Save games? Again, what about the harddrive? Or is for mobility reasons? Sounds cool with the USB drive though, does the same hold true with UT mods?

According to an email from Mark Rein to PA, any usb thumbdrive will work.

> You don't need a "memory card". I use the term "memory card" but in
> fact any PS3 readable memory device should do. A USB memory stick
> plugged into one of the PS3's USB ports (all models of PS3 have USB
> ports) works fine. If you already have a memory card from a digital
> camera and you want to use that then you can buy a pretty cheap USB
> memory card reader and plug it that into the USB port of the PS3. One
> of our guys even used an iPod to transfer the files on to his PS3.


Tycho's response was great:
From his hacked iPod, you mean. Remember: if you want to use mods on your PS3, it's easy! Just install Linux on your music player.

I wonder if tycho realises that there is an option in iTunes to use an ipod as a removable usb harddrive?

#229 by gaggle
2007-12-26 22:06:07
Thanks Squeaky.

"I'm not even angry / I'm being so sincere right now."
#230 by BobJustBob
2007-12-26 22:07:41
gaggle, for backing up save games off-console.

"I don't like story in games." - Soren Johnson
#231 by Leslie Nassar
2007-12-27 06:54:13
http://departmentofinternets.com
Dingle: i'm pretty sure that health regenerator was defective. try another one.
#232 by bago
2007-12-27 08:22:31
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Speaking of teasers.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
#233 by anaqer
2007-12-27 10:04:12
I wonder if tycho realises that there is an option in iTunes to use an ipod as a removable usb harddrive?

Maybe he meant MP3 files?

#10 - Why not both come out of a window?
#234 by Ashiran
2007-12-27 12:36:28
I saw parts of Hell's Kitchen yesterday.

It was horrible. Why the fuck do people find this a good show? Do they enjoy seeing a workplace bully at work or something?

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#235 by Gunp01nt
2007-12-27 14:22:33
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Probably the same reason why some people watch The Golden Cage. My conjecture is cynism and masochism.

"I've always viewed masturbation as a pretty positive thing."
- Warren Marshall
#236 by assemblerer
2007-12-27 14:51:35
http://uglycode.com
Hey, where have you been hiding, Leslie?

#237 by m0nty
2007-12-27 15:02:57
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
He's been busy not launching a startup, the bloody piker! Come on Nassar, pony it up!
#238 by jjohnsen
2007-12-27 16:34:11
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#234 by Ashiran

I saw parts of Hell's Kitchen yesterday.

It was horrible. Why the fuck do people find this a good show? Do they enjoy seeing a workplace bully at work or something?

I prefer his BBC shows.  He's still a dick, but seriously tones it down so you actually get interesting cooking information along with the yelling.

#239 by Matt Perkins
2007-12-27 17:09:54
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Ashiran (#234):
I saw parts of Hell's Kitchen yesterday.

It was horrible. Why the fuck do people find this a good show? Do they enjoy seeing a workplace bully at work or something?

I don't get it either. That's not interesting to watch, it's sad to watch people let them selves be treated that way by some jackass, be he a good chef or not.

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#240 by FoRmaT
2007-12-27 18:19:33
I just uninstalled Vista and installed XP Center with integrated SP2. Love! It's MCE 2002, and I know there is a later MCE 2005. Should I worry about that, as this one has SP2 embedded?

GET IN THE VAN I GOT CANDY
#241 by Ray
2007-12-27 18:21:02
ray@frenden.com http://frenden.com
I watched the F-Word, Boiling Point, Beyond Boiling Point, the BBC Kitchen Nightmares, the US shows, and have read his biography. There's a culture of tough love that seems to permeate high end kitchens. You have to realize he really is considered one of the best out there. The people that are getting yelled at (less so on the gameshowy HK and moreso on Kitchen Nightmares and the BBC shows) are probably learning more in one week with him than a year in cooking school.

He comes from nothing (which I like/can relate to) and has worked hard to earn everything he's got. More power to him.

#242 by Ergo
2007-12-27 18:39:11
Agreed. I have nothing but respect for Ramsey.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#243 by Matt Perkins
2007-12-27 18:51:17
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
More power to him being a belligerent asshole if that's what works for him...but do I want to watch a show about an asshat being mean to people just because he can? Not at all. I wouldn't work for someone like that no matter how much knowledge they promised to give to me.

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#244 by Gabe
2007-12-27 18:55:12
http://www.dartpublishing.com
I wouldn't work for him, but Hell's Kitchen is the only reality show I've kept up with.
#245 by McBain
2007-12-27 19:22:45
This guy is hilariously nuts .

"Why would I wanna read the book? All I'm saying is, I see a game every day. I watch baseball every day. I have a better understanding about why things happen than the computer, because the computer only tells you what you put in it. I could make that computer say what I wanted it to say, if I put the right things in there. ... The computer is only as good as what you put in it. How do you think we got Enron?"
#246 by hangedmanAG
2007-12-27 19:34:28
www.livejournal.com/users/hangedman_ag/
I can't even watch any of the US Gordon Ramsey reality shows.  They are dumbed down past the point of being merely irritating to being completely insulting.

A complete preview of what is going to happen before each commercial break and complete rehash of what you have already seen after each commercial break?  Events and intererviews rearranged and re-edited to complete add fake drama?  A completely predictable formula to the point where each episode of Kitchen Nightmares is exactly the same?

Bleh.

"when a man knows he is to be  hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." Samuel Johnson
#247 by Ergo
2007-12-27 19:36:41
Yes, the British version of Kitchen Nightmares is light-years better then the terrible Fox version. Ramsey does it because Fox pays him about $100,000 per episode.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#248 by Leslie Nassar
2007-12-27 20:54:38
http://departmentofinternets.com
assemblerer: i have been busy, working for the man.
#249 by Matt Perkins
2007-12-27 20:59:23
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Leslie Nassar (#248):
assemblerer: i have been busy, working for the man.

Sounds awful official and shit. Good job?

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#250 by Ashiran
2007-12-27 21:03:16
Agreed. I have nothing but respect for Ramsey.

I'm assuming that the show is hammed up quite a bit because really, if this is not the case I have in fact no respect for him at all. Yelling at personnel is bad enough, actively tearing down their self esteem is even worse. If a boss of mine would get in my face like he does, I would seriously consider breaking his face into half.

He seems to think that taking it to the max by turning people into fear trained pavlov bunnies is the way to perfection. In that case I recommend using robots instead.

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#251 by Leslie Nassar
2007-12-27 21:03:22
http://departmentofinternets.com
Matt Perkins: it's good, but the reliance on powerpoint slide-packs as the preferred document format is baffling.
#252 by Ergo
2007-12-27 21:05:29
#250 by Ashiran


I'm assuming that the show is hammed up quite a bit because really, if this is not the case I have in fact no respect for him at all.

Cool. Don't watch the show.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#253 by Matt Perkins
2007-12-27 21:06:45
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Leslie Nassar (#251):
Matt Perkins: it's good, but the reliance on powerpoint slide-packs as the preferred document format is baffling.

Every big company I've worked at has some unexpected document format they prefer to work with... last company I was a 2+ billion a year company and they used excel for EVERYTHING. That was pretty strange since they internal development teams and more.

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#254 by CheesyPoof
2007-12-27 21:15:28
Yelling at personnel is bad enough, actively tearing down their self esteem is even worse.

I think this is normal in the restaurant industry, and I'm not sure why. Anthony Bourdain talks about it, probably because the type of people that work in it are so weird it's just how it is. There was a teacher at the CIA where he went that was infamous for doing it.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#255 by Ashiran
2007-12-27 21:17:51
Cool. Don't watch the show.

Is there a point to this remark apart from stating the obvious? Cause I'm confused at which point I asked people to convince me to keep watching it.

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#256 by Ergo
2007-12-27 21:22:27
To expand a bit, I've met a couple of people people who worked under Ramsey at one of his London restaurants and they have nothing but admiration for him. Yeah, he shouts a lot and curses like a sailor. But he does it because he genuinely cares about his cooks and wants them to succeed. He'll go to the mat for any of his employees, according to what I've been told. He's abrasive, but as Cheesy said, so are a lot of  chefs. Professional cooking is an extremely stressful environment.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#257 by Ashiran
2007-12-27 21:25:27
I think this is normal in the restaurant industry, and I'm not sure why.

I'm pretty sure that the most efficient way to run a kitchen is by having a bunch of obeying automatons who can't make mistakes anymore even if they wanted to.

And frankly, I doubt any chef rising in the ranks in an environment like that will have any problems doing the exact same thing the moment they get to the top of the food chain.

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#258 by gaggle
2007-12-27 21:26:50
I have a question. Maybe it's so stressful because everybody shouts at eachother?!!?

"I'm not even angry / I'm being so sincere right now."
#259 by CheesyPoof
2007-12-27 21:28:07
I'm pretty sure that the most efficient way to run a kitchen is by having a bunch of obeying automatons who can't make mistakes anymore even if they wanted to.

There is truth in that, but you say it like it is a bad thing. You go to a restaurant and order a lime chicken with mango salsa, you want it the same way the next time you go back. There's not a lot of room for creativity in a kitchen outside of the head chef.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#260 by Matt Perkins
2007-12-27 21:28:45
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Ergo (#256):
To expand a bit, I've met a couple of people people who worked under Ramsey at one of his London restaurants and they have nothing but admiration for him. Yeah, he shouts a lot and curses like a sailor. But he does it because he genuinely cares about his cooks and wants them to succeed. He'll go to the mat for any of his employees, according to what I've been told. He's abrasive, but as Cheesy said, so are a lot of  chefs. Professional cooking is an extremely stressful environment.

Good for them...but abrasive doesn't describe what I've seen of him on Hell's Kitchen. It goes further than that. He literally destroys people, from calling them names, to saying horrible things for the mere shock effect, etc. *shrugs* To each their own. I'm just not that enthused about watching it...

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#261 by Ashiran
2007-12-27 21:32:00
I know, I'm not contesting that it isn't the best way to run a kitchen I'm just wondering why it needs to be accompanied by excessive yelling and tearing into people.

And yeah, as gaggle says, having all that shouting and yelling going on doesn't actually help with the stress and pressure either. Kinda makes me wonder if the high stress environment of a top kitchen isn't partially caused by itself.

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#262 by Ergo
2007-12-27 21:32:21
Well, I referring to the Kitchen Nightmares show more than anything. On Hell's Kitchen he's encouraged by the producers to be over-the-top (he's said so himself in interviews).

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#263 by Ashiran
2007-12-27 21:33:02
That was for #259.

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#264 by Ergo
2007-12-27 21:33:39
#261 by Ashiran

Kinda makes me wonder if the high stress environment of a top kitchen isn't partially caused by itself.

There's probably some truth to that.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#265 by Matt Perkins
2007-12-27 21:37:17
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Yeah and I'm only talking about Hell's Kitchen. I haven't seen anything else.

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#266 by assemblerer
2007-12-27 21:37:37
http://uglycode.com
I can't help it, but here's some more on-topic copyright infringement:

Joel Spolsky, Smart And Gets Things Done:

The Command and Control Management Method
...
The Command and Control form of management
is based on military management.
Primarily, the idea is that people do what you
tell them to do, and if they don’t, you yell at
them until they do, and if they still don’t, you
throw them in the brig for a while, ...

Some managers use this technique because
they actually learned it in the military. Others
grew up in authoritarian households or countries
and think it’s a natural way to gain
compliance. Others just don’t know any better.
Hey, it works for the military, it should work for
an Internet startup!
...

If Command and Control is such a bad way
to run a team, why does the military use it?
This was explained to me in NCO school. I
was in the Israeli paratroopers in 1986.
Probably the worst paratrooper they ever had,
now that I think back.
There are several standing orders for soldiers.
Number one: if you are in a mine field,
freeze. Makes sense, right? It was drilled into
you repeatedly during basic training. Every once
in a while, the instructor would shout out
“Mine!” and everybody had to freeze just so
you would get in the habit.
Standing order number two: when attacked,
run towards your attackers while shooting. The
shooting makes them take cover so they can’t
fire at you. Running towards them causes you to
get closer to them, which makes it easier to aim
at them, which makes it easier to kill them. This
standing order makes a lot of sense, too.
OK, now for the Interview Question: what
do you do if you’re in a minefield, and people
start shooting at you?
This is not such a hypothetical situation; it’s
a really annoying way to get caught in an
ambush.
The correct answer, it turns out, is that you
ignore the minefield, and run towards the
attackers while shooting.
The rationale behind this is that if you
freeze, they’ll pick you off one at a time until
you’re all dead, but if you charge, only some of
you will die by running over mines, so for the
greater good, that’s what you have to do.
The trouble is that no rational soldier would
charge under such circumstances. Each individual
soldier has an enormous incentive to cheat:
freeze in place and let the other, more macho
soldiers do the charging. It’s sort of like a
Prisoner’s Dilemma.
In life or death situations, the military needs
to make sure that they can shout orders and soldiers
will obey them even if the orders are
suicidal. That means soldiers need to be programmed
to be obedient in a way that is not
really all that important for, say, a software
company.
In other words, the military uses Command
and Control because it’s the only way to get 18-
year-olds to charge through a minefield, not
because they think it’s the best management
method for every situation.


#267 by Matt Perkins
2007-12-27 21:40:06
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Wait a second...being in an actual battlefield is different than working a company? That's mind blowing.

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#268 by gaggle
2007-12-27 21:45:54
A battlefield has striking similarities to working in a kitchen though, apparently.

"I'm not even angry / I'm being so sincere right now."
#269 by Ashiran
2007-12-27 21:46:26
I think #266 pretty much sums it up.

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#270 by Dingle
2007-12-28 03:21:18
mylifesazoo@gmail.com
I saw Chef Ramsey on Jay Leno, and he was quite a pleasant person with a good sense of humor. But attacking people with an ubridled, reptilian torpor despite their will to succeed is demonic and serves only those less than the Jerry Springer crowd. Whatever anyone believes we exist here for, something (call it atavistic even) down deep says to everyone that THIS ISN'T IT. Some thrive off that...others are disgusted. I'd rather be disgusted.
#271 by Leslie Nassar
2007-12-28 06:05:58
http://departmentofinternets.com
vampires are awesome.
#272 by McBain
2007-12-28 06:21:21
Ron Paul rally inside WoW.

"Why would I wanna read the book? All I'm saying is, I see a game every day. I watch baseball every day. I have a better understanding about why things happen than the computer, because the computer only tells you what you put in it. I could make that computer say what I wanted it to say, if I put the right things in there. ... The computer is only as good as what you put in it. How do you think we got Enron?"
#273 by Max
2007-12-28 06:23:50
http://massivebraincase.org/
Ron Paul Morans rally inside WoW.

Fixed.

It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
Check your FSI!
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